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mrfish
12-18-2006, 11:21 AM
Just found out that the bass pro project in Buffalo just fell through they are not telling us why yet

treerat
12-18-2006, 11:42 AM
The politicians up there are probably the problem . Nothing ever seem to get finalized up there in that city .Look how long the waterfront projects have been dragging out . Ithought it was kinda crazy for bass pro to open a second store in Ny state any ways .Has anyone been to the Auburn store?

darcher
12-18-2006, 11:58 AM
Just stopped in a Bass Pro Shop in Shreveport LA and used a gift card that was within days of expiring. Wish our Archery Shop could be like that!! need a tad more business to get er done!!

Grizzly Gary
12-19-2006, 03:18 PM
Them folks in Buffalo sure seem to not be on their game. Shame that there will be no Bass Pro.

Grizzly Gary

Buck Master
12-19-2006, 06:07 PM
Maybe it's because they are coming to Warren!!!



I can dream can't I?

btexpress
12-19-2006, 07:53 PM
Aren't they going to open one in the Pittsburgh area? Somewhere around Washington.

12-19-2006, 08:30 PM
Was lookin' forward to Bass Pro being in Buffalo...

Though I can find everything I don't need or can afford at Gander Mountain or by going to Cabela's........

Happen to know where LL Bean is too..................................

Gilligan
12-19-2006, 09:13 PM
Not trying to be negative toward BP, I use BP and even use BP credit card but I could care less if they come.

Right in the middle of negotiating with Buffalo and telling city officials that they would be drawing customers from WPA and East Ohio they announce plans for a BP in the Burgh, the same area where 'supposed' customers are going to come to Buffalo from. BP wants all kinds of incentives and tax breaks.

They tell about all the jobs they will 'create'...what about the jobs they eliminate when they start running the Dicks, Gander Mt and mom and pop shops out? They are not creating new income or new jobs only just putting what is in one hand to the other. I was in the Harrisburgh Pa. store and was not impressed.

NY...if you are going to use tax dollars then do it to create real jobs not recyclying jobs already here.

Scurry
12-19-2006, 09:35 PM
"""They tell about all the jobs they will 'create'...what about the jobs they eliminate -------
create real jobs not recyclying jobs already here."""

I can agree with that as here they just opened up Lowes & Walmart will be opening soon---------The local lumber yards & hardware stores are now hurting & will probably be soon going out of bussiness, employees just switching employers. K-Mart has gone down hill here the last few years & Warren Mall is pretty much barren (last time I was there) So it will be nothing new just a different store & more empty buildings, same employees just different employer. People can only buy so much stuff & if they are buying at Walmart or Lowes there not buying at the stores we allready had. Just my opinion

firemedic3314
12-19-2006, 11:17 PM
Rumor has it that they are seriously looking at the Ripley area....with access to I90 and I86 right there...plus Lake Erie.....anything is better than Buffalo

12-20-2006, 07:42 AM
I'm in business solely for me......

In that regard I buy the best quality for the best price and tend not to compromise much.

That's not saying I spend money on the most expensive stuff, it is saying I'm frugal with my loot and wise to good ****t.

Good ****t sells itself and more so with a smart price on it.

Consumers rule and merchants need be wise to THAT...............................

rattrapper
12-20-2006, 01:01 PM
Good point Gilligan, Bass Pro will definitly put a dent in Dick's and Gander Mt. Not to mention the little guys trying to make a living. ---------- rattrapper

Grizzly Gary
12-20-2006, 05:35 PM
Read in the Buffalo News yesterday that the City has given Bass Pro Shops 30 days to chit or get off the pot. The plan I read seems darn generous to me.

Grizzly Gary

Old School Dave
12-20-2006, 05:52 PM
They are definately building a BP right accross the road from the Meadows Race Track & Casino just North of Wasington Pa. They were waiting to see if the Meadows was going to get a slot machine license,which they did. That BP will just be less than 40 miles from the Cabela's in Wheeling W.Va
I'm pretty sure they have broke ground and this has been in the works for over a year now.

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carl milks
12-20-2006, 05:58 PM
That whole plan has been up & down like a yo-yo for a couple years now. The right hand does'nt know what the left hand is doing. Personally, I don't care. I visited the BP in Harrisburg-NOT impressed. Their prices have always been too high even in their catalogs. I've always been, and will stay inclined to buy local first, and most locals will order in if they don't have it. A last resort is mail or internet order for me.

goosedowner
12-20-2006, 07:28 PM
Rumor has it that they are seriously looking at the Ripley area....with access to I90 and I86 right there...plus Lake Erie.....anything is better than Buffalo
Isn't that the same location that was used for the Cabelas rumor? :lol:

I'm with Carl, I like to spend as much money localy like at Wild wind sporters or Tall Tales sporting goods. I like going to Cabelas because you can see so much more stuff in one place but when I need something like fishing line I end up going to Pages sporting goods.

Old School Dave
12-21-2006, 08:03 AM
Flippers brother-in-law who lives in Washington Pa. said the BP is 85% complete and will open in March at the location I stated.
For most part BP & Cabela's are higher than Gander Mtn. or Dicks but cant beat some of their sales.

Action
12-21-2006, 01:00 PM
I like BPS, I will likely go there instead of Cabelas because I'm more bass oriented and Cabelas is more hunting and walleye to me.

GRIZZ
12-21-2006, 03:51 PM
Read in the Buffalo News yesterday that the City has given Bass Pro Shops 30 days to chit or get off the pot. The plan I read seems darn generous to me.

Grizzly Gary

I heard the same thing on the radio this week. As far as I know BPS hasn't responded yet, so the project isn't quite dead, but I bet its close. I just don't think thats a very good location for them and they know it. The location is still on thier site under future locations. Personally, I'd be much happier with ripley, but I know thats just a rumor, and as far as I know they have no plans for Ripley.

walcat
12-21-2006, 07:31 PM
Dave: No, they haven't broke ground,in fact that looks a long way off now. Politicians and PennDot jacking them around. They'll screw it up just like the deal with Cabelas. They wanted to build the WV store in Wasington Pa But got tired of the big boys screwing them and went to WV when they offered a hellva deal. If they do build it ,it will be 30 min from my house as is GM. cabelas is 45 min. No wonder I'm broke all the time>

Old School Dave
12-21-2006, 07:48 PM
walcat,
Thats what I get from listening to my son,he assured me his B-I-L said that.
:oops:


it will be 30 min from my house as is GM. cabelas is 45 min. No wonder I'm broke all the time>
I heard that,just think how much money I had when I worked at Gander Mtn. after I re-tired.

Tone
12-23-2006, 09:58 AM
The news clip I had seen was the same as Grizz stated...Bass Pro was given 30 days for a go or no go. The woman doing the reporting for the Buffalo news was standing just a stones throw to the site where the business is supposed to be being built. Getting to the site by car was a different story as it took her 8 min. to travel the distance but stated things like no traffic, and lack of snow at the time.....2 things that would snarl that area indeed and that's why they figured Bass Pro was having second thoughts. From what was said a new bridge would have to be errected to illeviate such a traffic nightmare. You know what they say.......LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.......Tight lines.

Will_S
12-23-2006, 12:20 PM
Hey Walcat don't forget about the Gander Mountain in the Washington Pa mall to spend your money at. And although they do not carry fishing gear Ace Sporting Goods is a great hunting supply store.

walcat
12-27-2006, 05:39 PM
12/27/2006 Email this article Print this article
Suit filed against TIF plan

Christie Campbell
Staff writer

Yet another attempt to halt a tax increment financing plan for a South Strabane Township commercial development has been filed in court.








Ed Mazur, Jeff Bull and Citizens Against Tax Increment Financing are asking for a permanent injunction against the Victory Centre TIF plan.

They claim the development's TIF plan has changed so much since it was first proposed that it now needs to either be amended or stopped altogether. They are asking the Washington County Court of Common Pleas to declare that the project no longer reflects the original TIF plan, including prohibiting the issuance of bonds to support Tanger Development.

The lawsuit was filed Dec. 20 against the Washington County Redevelopment Authority and South Strabane Township. Mazur is a township supervisor.

The Victory Centre development is where Tanger Outlet Center mall and Bass Pro Outdoor World are planning retail stores. While Tanger has purchased more than 100 acres of property along Race Track Road, Bass Pro has only an agreement to purchase property. There is no written agreement from the company that they plan to build in South Strabane, though elected officials have said Bass Pro already has made a considerable investment in the township.

Bass Pro has proposed a similar project in Buffalo, N.Y., where Erie Canal Harbor Development Corp. has given the retailer 30 days to decide if it wants to open a store downtown.

CATIF claims that because the TIF plan requires both Tanger Development and Bass Pro Outdoor World store to build retail stores, the plan will not work if Bass Pro does not participate. Bass Pro is expected to generate almost 60 percent of the TIF revenue and approximately 40 percent of the required debt service on the $27 million bond issuance.

William McGowen, executive director of the redevelopment authority, was not available for comment Tuesday.

CATIF also contends the township failed to hold a public hearing on changes made to the original TIF plan, which would have given taxpayers the opportunity to comment on them.

RED DOG
12-28-2006, 11:28 AM
I know you can get any thing you want at those big places, but you can at the locally owned shops also.
40% of every dollar you spend at a locally owned store stays local, as compared to 16% from those big chain stores. By keeping those dollars local the area will see an increase in jobs and tax revanue.

Buy american made from a local store

treestandtimmy
12-30-2006, 11:48 AM
yeah, that's all and good and I love supporting local business and people, but there is something pretty awesome about being in a Bass Pro store. All that great stuff under one huge roof. There is a reason it has become a chain store.

bucksnort
12-31-2006, 07:15 AM
I live very close to the Bass Pro property . I haven't heard much lately, Haven't seen any ground broken yet. They ran into some traffic flow problems. You know how politics work every one is lining their pockets on this one!!

I'll have bass Pro 15 minutes East of me and Cabelas 15 minutes West of me. I won't know which way to go!
Bucksnort

ratherbhuntin
12-31-2006, 07:39 PM
Never been to a basspro partially cuzz i am horrible worth directions maybe we will get one where i can find my way to it.

walcat
01-02-2007, 12:49 PM
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They are in the process of planning the access first - a couple traffic studies etc etc and they're supposed to break ground on access this spring (so they say). There's a lot of legal wrangling going on by the people from CATIF (citizens against tax incremental funding) trying to put the kibosh on everything. So far they've been turned down by every court, but they still have several issues to go. It will probably get built but we're looking at a year or two down the road before it actually happens. I live and work 5 minutes from there. any more news and I will try to keep everyone updated as things progress. oh, and by the way it is in the town of Meadowlands across from the Meadows racetrack. Dave

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Grizzly Gary
01-06-2007, 06:36 PM
Just saw on the news this morning that a Bass Pro Shops rep. says talks are ongoing. He also stated that if they were no longer interested in the project they would not still be talking.

Interesting to see how this turns out.

Grizzly Gary

treestandtimmy
01-08-2007, 04:10 PM
they've got 8 days to figure it out, I could care less as to what they do, but I just hope they figure it out.

afterburn1212
01-14-2007, 12:58 PM
The politics up here in buffalo are about the next best thing to being idiotic, they want the best of both worlds. They want to see major corporations move into the city, but they will give no consessions to make that happen. The city of Buffalo and the county of Erie move at too slow a pace to have any major improvements. That with the county being in fiscal demise that it's almost impossable to make any changes within a reasonable amount of time. The building that they were looking at was the old Buffalo Memorial Auditorium, (where the Buffalo Sabres played), what will probably happen now is that they will demolish it and make a parking ramp. Parking for what? With no new businesses coming into the city there will be no need for parking. Buffalo is a dieing city, and if the politicians don't get on the ball it will continue to slowly die. They lost the Pro Bass deal, possibility of losing caniso's, they can't even agree on a design for a new peace bridge between Canada and the U.S..I like many of the Grizzly Gary Crew would rather buy my fishing supply's at places like The Happy Hooker, ( which is where I buy most of my jigs) than a big over blown store anyway. Happy fishing to all. Afterburn 1212

Grizzly Gary
01-17-2007, 10:51 PM
Afterburn1212,

Sometimes politicians do amaze don't they? Now I heard on the news that they are seriously considering another location in the area. No wonder Buffalo seems to be losing population big time.

Grizzly Gary

AFISHN
01-28-2007, 04:30 PM
I think both BP AND Cabelas store prices are too high.

Been to BP in Harrisburg and Cabelas in Hamburg --primarily to see up close and feel certain items and most of the time I buy it elsewhere cheaper.

Even in Cabelas Bargin Cove you got to be careful for 2 reasons:no returns allowed and sometimes the "deal" is not that good.

carl milks
01-28-2007, 11:01 PM
You're right Afishin, I've been to both you mentioned plus the Cabela's at Dundee Michigan. ALOT of times you can get the same items cheaper locally. And re the Bargain Cave- most of the stuff in there is returned items- sometimes with parts missing, you buy "as is" at your own risk, and even then, they don't cut the price all that much. I still stand by my rule of buy local whenever possible!!!!

GRIZZ
04-05-2007, 02:26 AM
I'm sure many of you have heard this already. but the papers are signed for the BPS on the Buffalo waterfront. I don't know the details, but the deal is finally done.

Mighty Mike
04-06-2007, 10:20 AM
if it takes as long to build it as it did to do the deal i will be 10 years in the grave by the time its done. will be nice to have a big store like that close by. anybody know when it is going to open.

mike

Grizzly Gary
04-07-2007, 10:31 AM
I am glad they got the deal done. I also wonder how long it will take to get the place open.