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    Well I think the idea of bannning fishing is stupid. But also, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

    The alternative article is very interesting point of view also. And while I am certain that particular writer understands the challenges and issues of commercial fishing vs recreational fishing, I am not at all certain our President and his gang would not make one sweeping move to appease radical green groups. The sportsmen are not as well organzied or funded. Let's face it, we go ape dip if they want to raise our license five dollars. How many of us would give five dollars to an organization to help battle this? Not nearly as many as the combined efforts of several already organized anti fishing anti everything groups. And commercial fishermen are NOT on our side. After years of irresponsible methods, they are the first to point the finger at rec fishing whenever their lively hood is threatened. I think there is going to be more to this fight. I have read about this on other forums and this isn't something that just suddenly cropped up. It has been in the works a while. And while the second artical tends not to be alarmist, well I don't always fall for that either. Putting a PR person in the field to smooth your feathers before they shove it up your bilge hole is also a common technique. The power of the pen will gather followers from both sides. It will be tough sorting truth from propoganda, but careful judgement is more important that reactionary responses.

    It looks like it is shaping up to be a challenge that could affect fishing industry jobs, market prices, recreational fishing and laws and methods. I hope you can still appreciate that even in the midst of crisis, I will still find humor, still send some shots across the bow, but ultimately will take action at the pole and with the pen, with the correct information as I understand it.
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    I don't like to give kids like the Clair any satisfaction by replying to their "devil's advocate" type of post. To approach such an amazing time in history with a flippant attitude as playing devil's ad. is as bad as those that do hold such bazaar views. The view has real advocates that we need to stand up against with facts and convictions that are based on who we are as sportsmen and women. Emotions will run high on both sides of any animal rights argument and can't be the key element of your side or there will never be a winner. For a supposed lover of the outdoors and second amendment rights to try and rile up people is childish.

    Facts about how much good has come from sportsmen being the greatest supporters of conservation and how many jobs and businesses are supported by sportsmen's dollars are arguments that get people with no set opinion on our side. We have to realize that we will never get PETA to agree with us. The battle is for the support of people that have no set opinion about these issues and can be swayed either way.

    Some people do not ever want to kill an animal or fish themselves. Because of that, they may take PETA’s side of this in ignorance of what the true consequences would be. Even animal lovers can be won over by facts concerning starvation and disease in areas that aren't hunted. And by showing them how much habitat is being created and protected by the true hunters and fishermen. Not just our license fees and taxes, but the numerous clubs and organizations that love the outdoors.

    I hope that we never will have to “fish and hunt anyway”! And that would be a decision for every individual to make if the radical animal rights groups had their way. But I’m positive that saying things like that to people we are trying to win over, will not help our cause.

    And as far as all you rebels that did get all riled up, me too! I just wanted to share my opinion after I thought about it and read some more info. Who knows what the future holds! I will pick my battles and strategies carefully!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovetoshoot View Post
    I don't like to give kids like the Clair any satisfaction by replying to their "devil's advocate" type of post. To approach such an amazing time in history with a flippant attitude as playing devil's ad. is as bad as those that do hold such bazaar views. The view has real advocates that we need to stand up against with facts and convictions that are based on who we are as sportsmen and women. Emotions will run high on both sides of any animal rights argument and can't be the key element of your side or there will never be a winner. For a supposed lover of the outdoors and second amendment rights to try and rile up people is childish.

    Facts about how much good has come from sportsmen being the greatest supporters of conservation and how many jobs and businesses are supported by sportsmen's dollars are arguments that get people with no set opinion on our side. We have to realize that we will never get PETA to agree with us. The battle is for the support of people that have no set opinion about these issues and can be swayed either way.

    Some people do not ever want to kill an animal or fish themselves. Because of that, they may take PETA’s side of this in ignorance of what the true consequences would be. Even animal lovers can be won over by facts concerning starvation and disease in areas that aren't hunted. And by showing them how much habitat is being created and protected by the true hunters and fishermen. Not just our license fees and taxes, but the numerous clubs and organizations that love the outdoors.

    I hope that we never will have to “fish and hunt anyway”! And that would be a decision for every individual to make if the radical animal rights groups had their way. But I’m positive that saying things like that to people we are trying to win over, will not help our cause.

    And as far as all you rebels that did get all riled up, me too! I just wanted to share my opinion after I thought about it and read some more info. Who knows what the future holds! I will pick my battles and strategies carefully!
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    as usual they have us fighting over one administration versus another.. as we fight and divide THEY consume more and more of our rights.. as long as ive lived my medical insurance hunting and fishing licenses boating , driving you name it has gone up... and every administration has written laws to shackle our freedoms.1 way or another. yet we still feel 1 or the other will free us. bwahahaha like someone said further back in this thread the country boy will survive.. one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngster View Post
    as usual they have us fighting over one administration versus another.. as we fight and divide THEY consume more and more of our rights.. as long as ive lived my medical insurance hunting and fishing licenses boating , driving you name it has gone up... and every administration has written laws to shackle our freedoms.1 way or another. yet we still feel 1 or the other will free us. bwahahaha like someone said further back in this thread the country boy will survive.. one way or another.
    the only ones that can "free us" is ourselves.

    Please, people, examine what I posted - them 5 links above. Very important that you all do and recognize what is being done, and exactly who is pulling the strings on this! We cannot win if we do not know who we are fighting.

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